This presentation offers a synthetic (summarising) look at the technologies developed in control societies by the state and capital and the ones developed in the hackerspaces, considered in the context of their political consequences. Cybernetics as an ideology with two forks (assymetric and symmetric) is used as an interpretative key to understand the visions of the world (ontologies) wired into such technologies. The underlying claim is that cybernetics had a decisive influence on the intellectual history of the second part of the twentieth century and consequently became an unreflected foundation of both cultural and countercultural currents. However, in order not to reproduce modernity and its discontents, we need to recover lost experiences in the cybernetics story which can inspire our relationship with technology, as well as political visions of the world.